Holly is joined by Act Party MP Karen Chhour (Ngāpuhi), who discusses what it means to be Māori in politics in Aotearoa New Zealand after her whakapapa was called into question in the House. Karen also shares some of her most vulnerable moments growing up in state care, and how a few chance encounters - coupled with personal determination to do better for her children - led her to pursue an unexpected career in politics.
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